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Started by Elemental_Elf, March 22, 2009, 03:36:14 AM

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SDragon

I've said it before, but Rich is a genius with storytelling. Before you agree, let me be clear: this isn't just my way to say that I really like OotS a lot. So I'll say it, on record, as an aspiring graphic storyteller: Rich is a genius at storytelling. He has an overriding philosophy that he relies on for most, if not all, of the artistic decisions in OotS; the most important elements are not the ones that are shown, but the ones that aren't shown. This applies to everything from the recognizably minimalist style that he uses for the strip (which allows the reader to fill themselves in as the missing details), to a few gags that relied a lack of information, and much more. With that in mind, reconsider the last panel of:

Quote from: Loch BelthaddExplosive runes!

Notice how the lack of explicit information effects the pace of that part of the comic. "time" seems to stop just long enough for the reader (and, in effect, Xycon as well) to register what exactly is going on. Also notice that this is the last panel of that particular strip. while the pacing for that last panel wouldn't allow for anything after it (another panel would pressure the reader to continue on), there's also the issue that the next panel just couldn't work in the same strip. The fact that it's missing only adds to it's impact.

So, I say again, Rich is a storytelling genius.

Edit-- with all of that in mind, enjoy my favorite example of that:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0402.html
[spoiler=My Projects]
Xiluh
Fiendspawn
Opening The Dark SRD
Diceless Universal Game System (DUGS)
[/spoiler][spoiler=Merits I Have Earned]
divine power
last poster in the dragons den for over 24 hours award
Commandant-General of the Honor Guard in Service of Nonsensical Awards.
operating system
stealer of limetom's sanity
top of the tavern award


[/spoiler][spoiler=Books I Own]
D&D/d20:
PHB 3.5
DMG 3.5
MM 3.5
MM2
MM5
Ebberon Campaign Setting
Legends of the Samurai
Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

GURPS:

GURPS Lite 3e

Other Systems:

Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

MISC:

Dungeon Master for Dummies
Dragon Magazine, issues #340, #341, and #343[/spoiler][spoiler=The Ninth Cabbage]  \@/
[/spoiler][spoiler=AKA]
SDragon1984
SDragon1984- the S is for Penguin
Ona'Envalya
Corn
Eggplant
Walrus
SpaceCowboy
Elfy
LizardKing
LK
Halfling Fritos
Rorschach Fritos
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Before you accept advice from this post, remember that the poster has 0 ranks in knowledge (the hell I'm talking about)

limetom

I totally didn't see this coming.

[spoiler]The question was not if but when.[/spoiler]

Nomadic


Elemental_Elf

Holy wowzers... Xykon is freaking crazy angry... Putting your hand in O-Chul's mouth, then casting Meteor Swarm...? That is both horribly evil and the end product is equally horrible, for the janitor who has to clean it up!

Superfluous Crow

That is actually a pretty nasty technique.
Hmm, how long until a DnD team tries to copy him? :p
Currently...
Writing: Broken Verge v. 207
Reading: the Black Sea: a History by Charles King
Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

beejazz

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QuoteI don't believe in it anyway.
What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Loch Belthadd

a.k.a. gnomish cheetos
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I am a (self-appointed) knght of the turtle. Are you?

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons...for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup...

 Make something idiot-proof and someone will invent a better idiot.
 [spoiler]Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55% of plepoe can.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

fi yuo cna raed tihs, palce it in yuor siantugre.
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Ishmayl-Retired

Yeah, that was pretty crazy.  Hopefully we're pretty much wrapping up this arc now and get to a new one.
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For finite types, like human beings, getting the mind around the concept of infinity is tough going.  Apparently, the same is true for cows.

beejazz

Oh, and I don't think it was the monster in the darkness that teleported V and O Chul out. I think it was the fiends... they seemed to want V not dead.
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QuoteI don't believe in it anyway.
What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Superfluous Crow

I'm pretty sure it was the monster. The fiends specifically mention that they are powerless on the material plane.
Currently...
Writing: Broken Verge v. 207
Reading: the Black Sea: a History by Charles King
Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

Nomadic

Yea the fiends can't directly interfere except when making deals. That's not to say that it couldn't have been someone else but I personally think it was the MitD (who I still think is a grue :P).

Elemental_Elf

We don't know what spell was used to get the out of there. It could have been a Wish, a Limited Wish, a Miracle , a teleport spell, a time stop, the psionic version of time stop, hell it could have been a basic Dimension Door.

Point being, there's a lot of things it *could* be...

Still I'd bank on the Monster In the Darkness or the fiend's indirect intervention (through an invisible Imp perhaps...?).

Nomadic

Quote from: Elemental_ElfStill I'd bank on the Monster In the Darkness or the fiend's indirect intervention (through an invisible Imp perhaps...?).

An imp can only teleport itself and about 50 lbs (remember the whole ordeal with V and Qarr).

SDragon

Quote from: NomadicYea the fiends can't directly interfere except when making deals. That's not to say that it couldn't have been someone else but I personally think it was the MitD (who I still think is a grue :P).

Hey, you got that idea from me! :p
[spoiler=My Projects]
Xiluh
Fiendspawn
Opening The Dark SRD
Diceless Universal Game System (DUGS)
[/spoiler][spoiler=Merits I Have Earned]
divine power
last poster in the dragons den for over 24 hours award
Commandant-General of the Honor Guard in Service of Nonsensical Awards.
operating system
stealer of limetom's sanity
top of the tavern award


[/spoiler][spoiler=Books I Own]
D&D/d20:
PHB 3.5
DMG 3.5
MM 3.5
MM2
MM5
Ebberon Campaign Setting
Legends of the Samurai
Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

GURPS:

GURPS Lite 3e

Other Systems:

Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

MISC:

Dungeon Master for Dummies
Dragon Magazine, issues #340, #341, and #343[/spoiler][spoiler=The Ninth Cabbage]  \@/
[/spoiler][spoiler=AKA]
SDragon1984
SDragon1984- the S is for Penguin
Ona'Envalya
Corn
Eggplant
Walrus
SpaceCowboy
Elfy
LizardKing
LK
Halfling Fritos
Rorschach Fritos
[/spoiler]

Before you accept advice from this post, remember that the poster has 0 ranks in knowledge (the hell I'm talking about)

Elemental_Elf

Quote from: NomadicUnless they are just being teleported to somewhere else inside the city then it couldn't have been a non-epic teleport spell due to cloister.

 I thought the cloister only affected entry into and not leaving out of the city... How else would Redcloak's teleport work?

Quote from: NomadicAn imp can only teleport itself and about 50 lbs (remember the whole ordeal with V and Qarr).

I assumed the fiends would give him a magic item that either increased his capacity, decrease the weight of the two or allowed him to cast a different spell.