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[poll] Valgora Campaign Setting

Started by Hooper, August 24, 2009, 07:57:51 PM

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What do you think?

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Hooper

Name: Valgora
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valgora_(DnD_Campaign_Setting)

Basic Premise: Generic Fantasy Setting for Homebrew/Core play
How it began: As a test to keep people from metagaming
How it grew: We fleshed out basic ideas - filled in the map, countries, etc.
How it grows: Our Gaming group, the Quilt City O.G.R.E.s, roleplays in Valgora.  As we explore an area, and NPCs are fleshed out, we add it to the wiki - all part of an ever growing world.
Future: Lots to add - will be duplicating it over to this CBG wiki as well.

Discuss, Critique, Comment, etc.
-Hooper
Quilt City O.G.R.E.s www.quiltcityogres.com
Organization of Gamers & Roleplaying Enthusiasts

Valgora Campaign Setting
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valgora

Llum

Looks pretty good. However most of the info seems to be relatively shallow, not a bad thing and something that can be rectified with time.

A lot of stuff also just seems to say "like in X book/splat book. Also make sure to ask the DM"

SilvercatMoonpaw

Is there a section you'd most want first-timers to see?  Because that's a lot of information, I have no idea what to look through.
I'm a muck-levelist, I like to see things from the bottom.

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Hooper

In that case, the basics are touched up here: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valgora_(Valgora_Supplement)

Yes, a lot is, as you say, shallow.  Trying to keep it open for future additions as we game in the world and further create it.  It'll just take time.  Lots of it.

My only complaint is some of our silly stuff, but thats what happens when you bring beer to D&D.  Our fault.

-Hooper
Quilt City O.G.R.E.s www.quiltcityogres.com
Organization of Gamers & Roleplaying Enthusiasts

Valgora Campaign Setting
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valgora

SilvercatMoonpaw

Well a world that's never had war is certainly unique, though what effect that has on knowledge of fighting I'd wonder about.
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"No matter where you go, you will find stupid people."


LordVreeg

Quick dash through it, Epic Meepo Ninja style... :ninja:

1) Everything looks good.  The look is great.
2) you have a good tendency to sub organize well within a page.
3) The section of the gods is mising something viatal...information of the churches.  There is a little data on some gods and again, a nice inter-page breakdown, but the most important data, who worhips who and how worship feels and the entity of the churches, is left out.  A list of deities is not a religion.  No matter what certain FRP/RPGs may think.
4)The whole world has a unified calander?  Nothing based on one culture, or anything?  And what is the dated year based on?  What year is it currently?  And 365 days, with a leap year, 12 months, seven day weeks?  Hooper, it's your world, but my advice is to give it an identiry vs. taking the easy way out.
5) Looked over adventures briefly, and there is not enough backstory or history in one to even really grasp the significance of it, excpet for, "It's an adventure, you are an adventurer."
6) Talara is a good entry, but you need to push GM's and readers to it since it has your best example of flavor.  And keep up the quotes.
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Hooper

Thanks for the great comments.  The one that I'll have to note is the days of the week and months.  This is done on purpose, which is explained in the About Valgora page.  
-Hooper
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Organization of Gamers & Roleplaying Enthusiasts

Valgora Campaign Setting
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valgora

LD

From Valgora's About page: "The world is actually Earth, thousands of years in the future "

That does not mean that the week-keeping cannot be different (8 days a week; 10, etc). Or even the months could be lunar rather than solar.

Personally though I see no reason to complicate things with new calendars. I doubt that few players remember the new month-names anyway.

LordVreeg

[blockquote=LD]Personally though I see no reason to complicate things with new calendars. I doubt that few players remember the new month-names anyway.[/blockquote]
I disagree.  Albeit complately respectfully.  
They DO have trouble with the days fo the week, but the 8 day 'hawaak' is well used by players in Celtricia, as are the months.  I will also say it helps keeping Players in character, as well as helping with the versimilatude.
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Matt Larkin (author)

Quote from: LordVreeg[blockquote=LD]Personally though I see no reason to complicate things with new calendars. I doubt that few players remember the new month-names anyway.[/blockquote]
I disagree.  Albeit complately respectfully.  
They DO have trouble with the days fo the week, but the 8 day 'hawaak' is well used by players in Celtricia, as are the months.  I will also say it helps keeping Players in character, as well as helping with the versimilatude.

I disagree with your disagree. Ha!

While some settings benefit from the alienness of a unique calendar, it's been my experience that most campaigns do not. I've found it's often better not to distract the players with such things unless you have a damn good reason to.
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LD

Vreeg- I can agree that an 8 day week might be passable and for a culture it can be a very good idea to have holy numbers and to follow a lunar calendar, for example.

However, straying too far afield and renaming months and days of the week really seems like a road to disaster unless as Phoenix above states it really is integral to the setting-- as in, the number 8 is used everywhere or the month names come up almost every third sentence. Otherwise, they risk becoming a mild annoyance.

edit.
(Vreeg appears to have commented on this at length here: http://www.thecbg.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?69756.last) His attention to detail also comes clear here: http://celtricia.pbworks.com/The+Calendars which is almost "Zompist" worthy [the site where, similar to Celtricia, the fellow created a massive world with an amazing history].)

I do not really have anything else to say on the subject much beyond what I say above in this post, other than perhaps I personally find it difficult to keep track of calendar dates and renamings in books such as the Forgotten Realms and the Wheel of Time and have found them to be more intrusive into the fantasy- breaking the suspension of immersion and disbelief than useful because it is difficult to relate the ideas to a clear concept and I am constantly reminded that I am reading a book... when instead I should either be enjoying the novel or focusing on the philosophy. If the month renaming is tied to the philosophy and the essence of the novel- it works- otherwise, it is just window-dressing that may confuse the reader.

Hooper

I've began the massive process of duplicating everything from www.dandwiki.com over to this wiki - so some of it is here to peruse.  
-Hooper
Quilt City O.G.R.E.s www.quiltcityogres.com
Organization of Gamers & Roleplaying Enthusiasts

Valgora Campaign Setting
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valgora