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Started by LD, April 25, 2010, 12:01:39 AM

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LD

Is the wiki code exportable in the event that the CBG ever stops functioning?

That is, is it possible to download all the information in a batch and upload to another wiki? Or would the pages need to be extracted and saved one by one?

Thanks!

Ishmayl-Retired

If we ever get the time to do a major update we're planning, there will be an extension that allows for saving the data as a big ol' text file to your hard drive.  But, the CBG is not going anywhere.
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LD

Thank you for that information Ish; when is the CBG update coming, by the way? I recall talk that in the Summer it was in the beta testing stage?

And on another subject, if I was interested in starting a wiki for private use (not uploading it on the internet, but just using wiki software as a simple way to categorize data for myself on my own computer) is that possible? It seems that I would need to run a localized server- but there has to be a simpler way.

I did some wikipedia research and found one HTML based wiki, but that one did not really seem to suit my purposes. The best bet of the others appeared to be the ones based in RUBY, but those seemed to require servers. I skimmed a few how-tos and even the ones involving "USB-stick size servers" all seemed to require connecting the wiki to some third-party internet.

Ishmayl-Retired

Most of them require some form of server because they use a database to store their information.  I think Tiddlywiki is an html one though.  Also, Uncle Bear (a prominent role playing dude around the intrawebz) created something called the TenFootWiki which may be something you're interested in.
!turtle Ishmayl, Overlord of the CBG

- Proud Recipient of the Kishar Badge
- Proud Wearer of the \"Help Eldo Set up a Glossary\" Badge
- Proud Bearer of the Badge of the Jade Stage
- Part of the WikiCrew, striving to make the CBG Wiki the best wiki in the WORLD

For finite types, like human beings, getting the mind around the concept of infinity is tough going.  Apparently, the same is true for cows.

LD

Hm. Is it possible to just have a localized server then-- one that I *could* upload to the web but that I can just edit to my hearts content purely on my own computer or intranet?

The Tiddlywiki is the one I saw and had not been thought it served my purposes. The TenFootWiki is better, but still not what I am looking for. Thank you very much for your feedback though.

Ishmayl-Retired

Localized servers are a headache, but I imagine apache should do what you're wanting.  Maybe brainface will contribute to this conversation though, he's the database guy around here.
!turtle Ishmayl, Overlord of the CBG

- Proud Recipient of the Kishar Badge
- Proud Wearer of the \"Help Eldo Set up a Glossary\" Badge
- Proud Bearer of the Badge of the Jade Stage
- Part of the WikiCrew, striving to make the CBG Wiki the best wiki in the WORLD

For finite types, like human beings, getting the mind around the concept of infinity is tough going.  Apparently, the same is true for cows.

brainface

QuoteHm. Is it possible to just have a localized server then-- one that I *could* upload to the web but that I can just edit to my hearts content purely on my own computer or intranet?
can[/i] run a localized server for mediawiki, and it works, but it's kind of silly to run a web server just for mediawiki unless running webservers on your home pc is your idea of fun.

Again, if we had some more idea of what you're looking for that tiddlywiki isn't solving, we might be able to give you some more feedback? Is it the graphics, the ui, the way it stores date?
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

LD

Thank you very much for getting back to me

I was trying to do one of two things (or both possibly)

1. Use a wiki as a campaign setting organizer, although with prodigious links to outside sources, like images, other historical entries on the real wikipedia, for example.

Frankly I'd like an offline wiki the sort that the CBG has with tabs and discussion pages and the ability to set templates. I do not need the history page.

This campaign setting organizer would just be for my players and for myself.

2. Use a wiki as a way to manage my notes for a book that I am writing- I might be able to use the Ten Foot Wiki for this, but I really don't like the drop down dynamic menus- I'd like it if the pages completely replaced themselves like a normal HTML site or a normal wiki.

I plan on having lots of cross references.

I think it would be a great way to organize notes. But considering that these are notes for my books, understandably I don't want them out on the internet.

I would also like this to be relatively simple- with as little source editing as possible; so it should have a GUI post editor.

Thank you again.

LD

Bump? Any advice now that my particular goals are laid-out?

Nomadic

If you want to go through with this I would suggest setting up WAMP on your computer. That will let your run a full apache/mysql/php webserver on your own computer. You could then take that and run wiki software off it. Only issue is that it requires a basic understanding of SQL and web server administration. I'd do it for you but I would really need to be there with full access to your computer. Next best thing would to have a look at these:

- http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-set-up-your-own-wampserver/
- http://lifehacker.com/163707/geek-to-live--set-up-your-personal-wikipedia

LD

Hm. Setting up WAMP sounds like a good plan.

I have some familiarity with coding in PHP and JavaScript and while not an owner of a forum, I once was an administrator with access to modifying abilities regarding the code and so I have knowledge of the theory.

I think I'll get on that next weekend (not this weekend) or so when I have a big chunk of hours to work out the coding kinks.

Thank you.