For all of those who have wanted to play God...

[CYMRO]

for that matter, how often does the average human eat something with the knowledge that they may create a new universe?

Well...I know a few, but I travel in some pretty strange circles. :yumm:

[beejazz]

im just going on the assumption (however accurate or inaccurate it may be) that this isnt a scam.

Big assumption, but assuming so:

If the acceleration of a particular particle means the creation of another universe, then it is just one of a overwhelming number of universes being created constantly by the large but unknown number of natural and unnatural phenomena that can and will accelerate said particle.

Eat the right combination of hot peppers and I bet you, too, can accelerate some quantum particles.  Whether or not it gives birth to a new universe or just reduces the air quality in this one is open for debate.

They can't make a reliable space shuttle.  They have not presented a safe, cheap alternative to  fossil fuels.  They do not understand how the human brain works.  They cannot accurately predict even the simplest weather.  They cannot cure cancer.
But they claim they can create another universe.
Riiiighhht.  

main difference here, of course, is intent and, (to a lesser extent) knowledge. when was the last time you ate something with the intent on creating a new universe? or better, how often does the average human eat something with that intent? for that matter, how often does the average human eat something with the knowledge that they may create a new universe?

i never said i believe they really are doing what they claim to be doing, nor did i say that its possible to use their methods to do it. i posed my hypothesis with no mention of how they do it, only is they do it.

I intend to create a new world EVERY time I eat chili fries... a world of pain and horror! :explode:

[CYMRO]

im just going on the assumption (however accurate or inaccurate it may be) that this isnt a scam.

Big assumption, but assuming so:

If the acceleration of a particular particle means the creation of another universe, then it is just one of a overwhelming number of universes being created constantly by the large but unknown number of natural and unnatural phenomena that can and will accelerate said particle.

Eat the right combination of hot peppers and I bet you, too, can accelerate some quantum particles.  Whether or not it gives birth to a new universe or just reduces the air quality in this one is open for debate.

They can't make a reliable space shuttle.  They have not presented a safe, cheap alternative to  fossil fuels.  They do not understand how the human brain works.  They cannot accurately predict even the simplest weather.  They cannot cure cancer.
But they claim they can create another universe.
Riiiighhht.  

main difference here, of course, is intent and, (to a lesser extent) knowledge. when was the last time you ate something with the intent on creating a new universe? or better, how often does the average human eat something with that intent? for that matter, how often does the average human eat something with the knowledge that they may create a new universe?

i never said i believe they really are doing what they claim to be doing, nor did i say that its possible to use their methods to do it. i posed my hypothesis with no mention of how they do it, only is they do it.

I intend to create a new world EVERY time I eat chili fries... a world of pain and horror! :explode:

Who said the spirit of scientific endeavor was dead?

It just smells that way...

[Túrin]

I hold that we are still responsible even if in some way some of the action in the baby-universe takes place before it is created in our universe, because it is the cause-effect relation that matters, not the chronological one (even if existence of the baby-universe would somehow happen before its creation, creation would still be the cause and existence the effect).

Túrin

[SDragon]

how could effect happen before cause? even in this example of 4D existance, i dont see how the ten years would be an effect; as far as i can tell, it would be an incredible blur of the otherwise thick line between "creation" and "discovery".

of course, now im even more confused, because in this case, creation wouldnt be possible without discovery....

[beejazz]

meh. time distortion is already taken into account. we exist, therefore we will not be erased from any point before now... likewise, the other universe either exists in reality or as a possibility. if it's the latter, we have no responsibility towards it... any more than we have to exist in a perpetual state of fucking for the sake of all the 'potential' humans.

[Elven Doritos]

if it's the latter, we have no responsibility towards it... any more than we have to exist in a perpetual state of fucking for the sake of all the 'potential' humans.

Wait, you aren't?