The CBG System (discussions)

[Wensleydale]

[th]Spirit[/th][th]Luck[/th][th]Both[/th][th]Neither[/th]

2+caveat	1+5 caveat	1 Vote	2 Votes

[CYMRO]

I am off to mow the lawn while we wait for any late voters.

[Wensleydale]

So, of the voters, Witchhunt and... who else? Remain to vote.

[beejazz]

So neither has three votes.
Both has one vote.
Spirit has one vote (and a caveat).
And luck has one vote (and four caveats).

[Hibou]

Spirit, caveat luck. I don't totally understand how Luck would fit VP/WP though.

I like the idea of having the stat and having the stats be the direct representation of saves. Perhaps certain magical items can say "Gives +2 to Spirit when resisting charm spells" or whatnot, but I don't want to see another system of base saves + stat mods + other mods.

[beejazz]

Oops... Nevermind.

[beejazz]

@Witch: And straight-up ability checks makes a bit more sense where we aren't level-scaling.

[Wensleydale]

If there's a draw, it'll be decided by caveats.

[CYMRO]

Spirit, caveat luck. I don't totally understand how Luck would fit VP/WP though.

Vitality points are part luck.  They represent turning the killing blow, moving that fraction of an inch at the last minute, etcetera.  That is why, if we have Luck, it should factor in VP, though certainly not WP.

[CYMRO]

BEEJAZZ votes LUCK.
GOLEM011 votes BOTH.
SILVERCATMOONPAW votes NEITHER, with a caveat toward SPIRIT.
CYMRO votes NEITHER, with a caveat toward LUCK.
NATURAL 20 votes NEITHER, with a caveat toward LUCK.
SNAKEFING votes SPIRIT, with a caveat toward LUCK.
WITCHHUNT votes SPIRIT, with a caveat toward LUCK.

Any other voters?

[beejazz]

Spirit, caveat luck. I don't totally understand how Luck would fit VP/WP though.

Vitality points are part luck.  They represent turning the killing blow, moving that fraction of an inch at the last minute, etcetera.  That is why, if we have Luck, it should factor in VP, though certainly not WP.

Vitality, in my experience, is usually a less powerful type of injury, as opposed to a non-injury. Like a bruise instead of a broken arm. And before you say "but that's just a numeric diferrence" I say "but no matter how many bruises you have, it doesn't equal a broken arm" and before you run on to "but eventually you run out of vitality and hit wounds" I say "that's internal hemmorraging"

[Wensleydale]

At the moment, we have a draw between spirit and neither, with a caveat to spirit.

[CYMRO]

At the moment, we have a draw between spirit and neither, with a caveat to spirit.

BEEJAZZ votes LUCK.
GOLEM011 votes BOTH.
SILVERCATMOONPAW votes NEITHER, with a caveat toward SPIRIT.
CYMRO votes NEITHER, with a caveat toward LUCK.
NATURAL 20 votes NEITHER, with a caveat toward LUCK.
SNAKEFING votes SPIRIT, with a caveat toward LUCK.
WITCHHUNT votes SPIRIT, with a caveat toward LUCK.

Actually it looks like:
LUCK: 1. 4 caveats.
BOTH: 1.
SPIRIT: 2. 1 Caveat.
NEITHER: 3.

Looks more like neither for the win.

[Wensleydale]

Mmm. You're right there. Then again, there're still votes to go...

Unless we added the 'both' vote on... ;) there're more votes FOR a mental stat than against... :P

[CYMRO]

Mmm. You're right there. Then again, there're still votes to go...

Unless we added the 'both' vote on... ;) there're more votes FOR a mental stat than against... :P

This isn't Florida...