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Started by Elemental_Elf, March 22, 2009, 03:36:14 AM

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Nomadic

Well for V it's an issue of never enough. The goals are good but the means to achieving the goals aren't so good. And well, there's so much V could do with this power that they are going to use it for something and then realize that they can use it for just one more thing and so on and so forth. I foresee V doing this a bunch and becoming alienated by everyone they know. That could very well lead to serious BBEVness.

brainface

Annnd now he's going to "fix everything"

(this will end in tears. Actually it's already at that state, but, you know.)
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Ra-Tiel

Quote from: brainfaceAnnnd now he's going to "fix everything"
Reminds me of a saying...

"XML is like violence - if it doesn't solve your problems you didn't use enough of it."

Quote from: brainface(this will end in tears. Actually it's already at that state, but, you know.)
Definitively.

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Quote"XML is like violence - if it doesn't solve your problems you didn't use enough of it."
Oh god, just, oh god. :O
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Quote from: Ra-TielReminds me of a saying...

"XML is like violence - if it doesn't solve your problems you didn't use enough of it."


That's pretty fantastic.
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Elemental_Elf

I hope V can get the band back together! ... Of course they'll ostracize V for the deal he made... Still it will be nice to have the party back together.

Hmm, I wonder what V will do after he's all alone...

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Quote from: Elemental_ElfI hope V can get the band back together! ... Of course they'll ostracize V for the deal he made... Still it will be nice to have the party back together.

Hmm, I wonder what V will do after he's all alone...
I forsee this ending in V's death...

after they bring back Roy, that is.

Speaking of which, it's been a while since we got to see Roy... splitting up the party means months of not seeing some pretty central characters it seems like. What was the last we saw of Xykon?
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England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Elemental_Elf

Quote from: IshmaylYeah, the Oracle's response to his "When will I gain ultimate power?" (or whatever he asked) was "By saying the right four words at the right time for the wrong reason."

Looking back at that comic (331)...

Durkon will return to the Dwarven lands posthumously. (Hasn't Occurred)

The story will end well for Elan. (Hasn't Occurred)

Hailey is not supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth. (Perhaps... Has occurred with her re-joining the Thieves Guild).

Xykon will go to Girard's Gate before Kraagar's Gate. (Hasn't Occurred Yet)

Belkar will kill Miko, Miko's Horse, Roy, V or the Oracle. (Has been fulfilled when Belkar killed the Oracle).

V's prophesy has come true... Possibly. The exact quote is "By saying the right four words to the right being at the right time for all the wrong reasons." The right BEING! Last I checked there were THREE Fiends, not one. Now this could mean that either the author changed the plot line (by a small amount) or this was not how V attains 'Ultimate Arcane Power.'

SDragon

Maybe V really is going to try to fix everything. Maybe he thinks that simply letting go of the soul splice doesn't minimize damage enough. Who knows? Maybe V is even going to try using the new powers to challenge the fiends to prevent him from having to keep up his end of the deal.

V became drunk with power and the perceived lack of responsibility. He lost part of that power, and he might have realized that he still does have the responsibility. i don't think it's entirely unreasonable to think that an adventurer might attempt atonement through sheer force. The fact that it's that very force that's being atoned for puts an ironic spin on it, but I don't think V would see that. At least, he wouldn't see that as ironic in any seriously negative way.
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Quote from: Elemental_ElfV's prophesy has come true... Possibly. The exact quote is "By saying the right four words to the right being at the right time for all the wrong reasons." The right BEING! Last I checked there were THREE Fiends, not one. Now this could mean that either the author changed the plot line (by a small amount) or this was not how V attains 'Ultimate Arcane Power.'
It might have meant the imp instead of the fiends.
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Elemental_Elf

Quote from: Loch Belthadd
Quote from: Elemental_ElfV's prophesy has come true... Possibly. The exact quote is "By saying the right four words to the right being at the right time for all the wrong reasons." The right BEING! Last I checked there were THREE Fiends, not one. Now this could mean that either the author changed the plot line (by a small amount) or this was not how V attains 'Ultimate Arcane Power.'
It might have meant the imp instead of the fiends.

I didn't see any spot where V said only 4 words to the Imp... But good try :)

Jharviss

A Wizard Did It - http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html - is now up!

Hard to say that Vs actions in this one were bad.  Of course, he pretty clearly said that the main reason he came here was to show off to Durkan and Elan.  That's kinda sad.



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I smirked when I saw the title of today's strip.  Then I laughed out loud when I finished the panel where they say "She's in Greysky City".  The I roflcoptered when I hit the last panel.  So much for omnipotence.

Oh, and budget cuts?  Hilarity.
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Quote from: The Rose Of MontagueI smirked when I saw the title of today's strip.  Then I laughed out loud when I finished the panel where they say "She's in Greysky City".  The I roflcoptered when I hit the last panel.  So much for omnipotence.

Oh, and budget cuts?  Hilarity.
yes.
Also V isn't completely evil, just impatient.
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Quote from: Loch Belthadd[...] Also V isn't completely evil, just impatient.
No. V's an idiot. Idiot as in "Int 20, Wis -10". Even Legolas would be a better elven wizard than V could ever be.

I'm severly disappointed by V, honestly. V's insatiably hunger for power, his intolerance of his former "friends" and comrades, his willingness to do whatever is necessary to achieve his goals (aka "the ends justify the means") is what I would have expected of a human but not of a long-lived and supposedly wise elf.

How far V's fallen clearly shows in the way he had treated his mate. Imho V deserved a bullet to the brain, but that would be a waste of a perfectly innocent bullet. :-/