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Started by Soup Nazi, April 06, 2006, 02:43:10 PM

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Soup Nazi

April 06, 2006, 02:43:10 PM Last Edit: April 06, 2006, 02:45:00 PM by MittenNinja
Has anyone considered what role psionics will play in Cebegia yet? I know we've been trying to work within the structure of the SRD and the open game license, and so far psionics haven't even been mentioned...what gives?

If we do include them in the setting, I propose that psionics be something that's been there all along. I hate when it's thrown in as an afterthought, or introduced as some weird "new magic."

How do you folks feel about psionics in the community world?

-Nasty-
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Túrin

#1
April 06, 2006, 03:30:20 PM
I suppose we should have a "psionics: yes or no?" discussion here. We can put up a vote fairly early (we don't have to discuss it to death before people will have made up their minds whether or not to include psionics). Then if the vote says yes, we can work on getting psionics implemented as early as possible, to make sure it doesn't feel like an afterthought. So let's hear it: does anyone want psionics in this world?
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Soup Nazi

#2
April 06, 2006, 03:34:07 PM
You know I love em, so so here's the first yea vote.

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daggerhart

#3
April 06, 2006, 03:36:36 PM
i vote 'yes'
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Túrin

#4
April 06, 2006, 03:38:42 PM
I didn't really mean we should start voting already. I'll put up a vote thread as always. So now is your chance to give some reasons to vote "for" in the upcoming vote!
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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

brainface

#5
April 06, 2006, 03:40:05 PM
i vote we have some sort of discussion here beyond 'yes' and 'no' :D

i like psionics, and i think they'd be cool to have, but i'd have no problem with dropping them to simplify things.

Wasn't there some talk earlier about 'rebranding' them to fit in the setting? can we get brainstorming on that going in here?
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

Numinous

#6
April 06, 2006, 03:59:59 PM
I have no real(strong) opinion on whether or not to include psionics.  I suggest that if they are included, that they can be removed easily, but that they should be an important part of the setting.  A difficult problem to solve, but if we pull it off, it'll be sweet.

I had a little random idea...
[spoiler]I have a little concept that is somewhat of a brainjstorm that psionics of the common races could have a conglomerate nation on another continent or island or something.  Perhaps the wolrd viewed psionics as dangerous or evil and exiled all psionic people.  This way the island can be wiped off the map, if psionics aren't used.  Or it can be mentionmed vaguely, or even become a place to "shake up" the world if it is explored in the majority.[/spoiler]
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Wix of Bel-Air

#7
April 06, 2006, 03:59:59 PM
I think I wanted to reformat the psionics into a more SRD magic using kinda way. I think I have some ideas to make it so that the psions have a list of spells but keep their unique power of sorcerous casting and their other unique powers.
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daggerhart

#8
April 06, 2006, 04:07:40 PM
well... as long as you dont define anything aabout them, they are splashable at the DMs disgression.

I wouldn't mind them being standard though.

And i think that if the gov. doesnt like psions, then it must accept magic.
I dont think they would / could persecute (or 'hate') them both effectively.
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Numinous

#9
April 06, 2006, 04:11:42 PM
The spoiler text was a random idea I had, and I'm not sure if it is even compatible with the setting.  I just felt that it was worth mentioning as an option and maybe for further idea spawning.
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daggerhart

#10
April 06, 2006, 04:13:43 PM
yeah,  i was just adding to it.   not saying it should't happen.
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Soup Nazi

#11
April 06, 2006, 04:33:55 PM
QuoteI think I wanted to reformat the psionics into a more SRD magic using kinda way. I think I have some ideas to make it so that the psions have a list of spells but keep their unique power of sorcerous casting and their other unique powers.
The psionic rules IMHO are almost perfect just as they are, and arguably better than the magic system. However that really has nothing to do with this discussion. Rules changes should be in the hands of an individual DM, and not forced upon a community setting. We really should stay within the guidlines of the SRD, so as many people as possible can make use of the Cebegia. If we want variant rules we can do them ourselves at our own gaming tables.

Just as an example: I use action points, and give them out in place of bonus XP for good roleplaying. I love it, but it has nothing to do with my setting specifically. This is a house rule however, to which I made no reference in my Sulos thread. It doesn't belong there.

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Túrin

#12
April 06, 2006, 05:07:18 PM
So to finish your point: the real discussion here is not whether we will include psionics, but whether we will integrate it with the core material, and account for it when working on this setting.
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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

Soup Nazi

#13
April 06, 2006, 05:32:06 PM
Exactly.
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Ishmayl-Retired

#14
April 06, 2006, 05:39:39 PM
I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. I'm not a huge fan, but seriously, if I DM it, then I probably just won't use it, or I'll buy a damned book and learn to love it.  It's not a hate relationship with me, it's just a "Geez, a whole new rules' system to learn within an already existing rules' system??" feeling.
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