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Elves vs. Dwarves

Started by Drizztrocks, November 03, 2008, 04:32:39 PM

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Kindling

The one thing restraining me from wholeheartedly voting Dwarf is this.

Dwarf Women.

And for that reason it must be Elves. If done "right" they can be very creepy, fey, otherworldly, even alien. All too often, this isn't how they are, but... they have the potential to be more badass, even if said potential is seldom tapped.
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Nomadic

Quote from: KindlingThe one thing restraining me from wholeheartedly voting Dwarf is this.

Dwarf Women.

And for that reason it must be Elves. If done "right" they can be very creepy, fey, otherworldly, even alien. All too often, this isn't how they are, but... they have the potential to be more badass, even if said potential is seldom tapped.

I see your dwarf women and raise you a keebler and santas elves.

Drizztrocks

3 to the Dwarves and 3 to the Elves {i'll count half elves, and I see your reasoning about the elves with beards, it just makes sense}. Tied poll!

snakefing

Picture a large coliseum.

At one end, the elvish champions. Tall, lithe, and elegant, with polished truesilver armor reflecting rainbow glints in the noon sun. Their bows are carved in ancient runes, and they grip long blades behind elaborate filigree guards, chased in gold. Truly an inspiring sight to the elvish half of the crowd. A musical cheer rises up as they stride purposefully to the center of the arena.

At the far end, a stout troop of dwarves stomp in to the arena. This half of the crowd erupts with a coarse shout that quickly builds to a deafening crescendo. The hammers and axes of the doughty warriors are sturdy and functional, yet anything but plain. Their dark armor seems to give off an earthly radiance all its own, despite the bright sun. Their faces are nearly invisible behind their bushy beards. The solidity and gravity of the dwarves makes the elves seem airy and insubstantial by comparison.

The two groups meet near the center of the arena, looking each other over warily. A blare of trumpets announces the beginning, yet for a pregnant moment, neither side moves. They seem to be awaiting the perfect moment of advantage...

...and then...

A giant meteor strikes, reducing the entire area to a glassy wasteland.

I vote for the meteor.
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Nomadic

And somewhere there's a 20th level magician making note that "that meteor swarm was totally worth it..."

Steerpike

Can I vote illithid?   No?  I guess elves then, because despite the fact that I generally disdain the pointy-eared ponces there are so many types of the friggin things that they can still be made somewhat different/interesting... you've got your tolkienian high elves, your warcraftian aristocratic sorcerer-types, your 4E wood elf hippes, your conniving drow... with dwarves it just seems that 99% of the time they're the same 'ol beardy dudes with axes - the only varieties appear to be "scottish" or "scandinavian."  Elves are at least psuedo-malleable - dwarves are more or less the same stocky drunken louts in every setting.

Now duegar/derro, though...


Llum

Quote from: SteerpikeCan I vote illithid?   No?  I guess elves then, because despite the fact that I generally disdain the pointy-eared ponces there are so many types of the friggin things that they can still be made somewhat different/interesting... you've got your tolkienian high elves, your warcraftian aristocratic sorcerer-types, your 4E wood elf hippes, your conniving drow... with dwarves it just seems that 99% of the time they're the same 'ol beardy dudes with axes - the only varieties appear to be "scottish" or "scandinavian."  Elves are at least psuedo-malleable - dwarves are more or less the same stocky drunken louts in every setting.

Now duegar/derro, though...

Ah, but those two are the best varieties there are ~~ It's like complaining you can only get chocolate and vanilla ice cream, they're staples and great for it.

As for elves, to refer to the icecream analogy, sure the triple berry marshmallow banana flavor rocks, but the zukini and lima bean ruins it for everyone :( Variety isn't always the spice of life, so to speak.

However, I respect your comments and can see your point, elves *can* be different, Dwarves basically never are :(

Drizztrocks

5 for the Dwarves, 4 for the Elves

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Loch Belthadd

Llum: As for elves, to refer to the icecream analogy, sure the triple berry marshmallow banana flavor rocks, but the zukini and lima bean ruins it for everyone  Variety isn't always the spice of life, so to speak.

Would you rather have Beard flavored ice cream?  :ill:
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I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

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Nomadic

Quote from: Loch BelthaddLlum: As for elves, to refer to the icecream analogy, sure the triple berry marshmallow banana flavor rocks, but the zukini and lima bean ruins it for everyone  Variety isn't always the spice of life, so to speak.

Would you rather have Beard flavored ice cream?  :ill:

I see you've never tried rocky road.

Loch Belthadd

If dwarves ruled the world there wouldn't be any icecream. just beards and beer. Don't forget that dwarf women have beards.
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My Unitarian Jihad Name is Brother Rail Gun of Reasoned Discussion.

I am a (self-appointed) knght of the turtle. Are you?

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons...for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup...

 Make something idiot-proof and someone will invent a better idiot.
 [spoiler]Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55% of plepoe can.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

fi yuo cna raed tihs, palce it in yuor siantugre.
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Llum

I'm pretty sure that if there was only beards and beer, beards on dwarf women would be one of the last things on your mind.