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May 17, 2008, 11:06:27 AM Last Edit: May 18, 2008, 10:29:19 AM by Elemental_Elf
For those who don't know, Gamer-Zero is reorganizing the boards on WotC into a form that destroys the current setup of the community there. He is a decrepit power hungry tyrant. He has no respect for those who are not his authority figures. He is a douche bag.

So long and thanks for all the fish...

The thread where you can dump all your complaints instead of actually sending your concerns to someone that'll do stuff about it.

Gamer_Zero, whatever his name actually is, is bad for the community.

Ishmayl-Retired

#1
May 17, 2008, 12:02:55 PM
I've agreed with this long before I knew who Gamer Zero was...
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May 17, 2008, 12:10:08 PM
Still, is it really necessary to start a thread here just to call someone on some other message board a douchebag?
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#3
May 17, 2008, 12:39:34 PM
Quote from: Epic MeepoStill, is it really necessary to start a thread here just to call someone on some other message board a douchebag?

Probably not. Perhaps the OP should have put more thought into this.

But the point is a valid one. Mike Mearls had basically been given the whole thrown to the D&D department of WotC. He's using the managerial style where he gets rid of people that don't agree with him 'till he's left with only the people that agree with him.

This sucks. In the end, no one will question him. If he makes mistakes (and he does) noone will point it out.

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May 17, 2008, 12:40:35 PM
If the Overlord approves and agrees, then it is all good (albeit, in my personal opinion, somewhat crass)
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#5
May 17, 2008, 12:40:59 PM
I guess it just depends on how large of a douchebag he is... ;)

This thread has been edited to make me look less mean
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May 17, 2008, 01:21:39 PM
I do want to make a statement here, because I think it's important.  I feel that I'm pretty fair, and I'm not known for locking down threads that don't need locking down.  I don't bother with censorship, I just ask that you not make an ass of yourself.  Only things that can get me, the site, or you guys in trouble are not allowed - such as publishing copyrighted information, or making threats and political movements against the status quo of this government and nation (some of you guys may remember what I'm talking about).   So I don't think it's necessary to disallow talk like this.  However, I do think it should be encouraged against, because I would hate to think of the CBG becoming known as a "members Only" or "niche" site where all we do is bash the other sites.  So with that in mind, I'll let this thread run its course, but we'll try not to get involved with this in the future unless there's a sincere discussion involved.
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Edit: And I would like to say that the_taken (and anyone else) is more than welcome to express his or her opinion here in whatever form they so please.  This post wasn't to say otherwise, just that the more we keep our statements to "love and peace," the better. That's all.  Carry on! ;)
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LordVreeg

#7
May 17, 2008, 02:35:17 PM
Well, it speaks to many things when The_taken vents here.

On one side, I appreciate that he feels this is a safe and comfortable niche to express his feelings about a part of the gaming world.  I am actually pleased that Ish makes the effort to create the atmosphere he does.
On the other hand, I had no idea who Mike Mearls or gamer-zero is, because not everyone on this site is a gleemax/wotc retread.  I come here for most of my gamer-fix, and a few other sites afterwards.  So while I enjoy off-topic as much as the next person, it makes me a little less comfortable when that off-topic conversation involves character assassination (deserved or not).
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#8
May 17, 2008, 05:17:53 PM
Hmm. Well, I read through the thread, and... I agree. He's really made quite a mess of the entire thing - he's got a bit of a revolution on his hands.

On the other hand... character assassination on another site DOES seem slightly crass... :/

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#9
May 17, 2008, 05:23:50 PM
Here's a much better place for this and similar threads:

http://www.douchebagalert.com/db/

Personally, I think that saying someone is involved in the perennial yet-another-edition-to-get-you-to-buy-it-all-over-again rip-off *and* is a douche-bag is grossly redundant, but that's just my personal attitude.
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May 17, 2008, 05:27:29 PM
Mike Mearls is one of the core Wizards of the Coast designers. I didn't know he was Gamer Zero, which is odd because I've been watching Gamer Zero for a while. I had thought he was someone else. Oh well.

It is unfortunate that the WotC forums are getting reorganized the way they are.
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May 17, 2008, 05:36:09 PM
Shouldn't Mike Mearls be... designing something? Can't they afford to hire people, er trained in handling forum users? Having your designers be your forum-moderators seems a bit off-kilter to me.
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the_taken

#12
May 17, 2008, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: brainfaceShouldn't Mike Mearls be... designing something? Can't they afford to hire people, er trained in handling forum users? Having your designers be your forum-moderators seems a bit off-kilter to me.

Someone mentioned to me the theory that he's concentrating on managing PR. And he's not being an stupid about it. The theory says that if they wreck the 3.5 forumns enough, people will stop playing 3.5. Then they can reinstate the good system for 4e. The concept is to alienate everyone that's not going to shift to the new program, make them go away. They are uprooting the whole D&D tree.5 and are tossing it out in the trash. If you really like the tree, you can go with it.

I don't think Mike Mearls is that clever. Of course, that could be part of his plan...

LordVreeg

#13
May 17, 2008, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: Snargash MoonclawHere's a much better place for this and similar threads:

http://www.douchebagalert.com/db/

Personally, I think that saying someone is involved in the perennial yet-another-edition-to-get-you-to-buy-it-all-over-again rip-off *and* is a douche-bag is grossly redundant, but that's just my personal attitude.

Amen.  
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Old, evil, twisted, damaged, and afflicted.  Orbis non sufficit.Thread Murderer Extraordinaire, and supposedly pragmatic...\"That is my interpretation. That the same rules designed to reduce the role of the GM and to empower the player also destroyed the autonomy to create a consistent setting. And more importantly, these rules reduce the Roleplaying component of what is supposed to be a \'Fantasy Roleplaying game\' to something else\"-Vreeg

brainface

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May 17, 2008, 06:04:41 PM
QuoteSomeone mentioned to me the theory that he's concentrating on managing PR. And he's not being an stupid about it. The theory says that if they wreck the 3.5 forumns enough, people will stop playing 3.5.
malicious[/i], unless he just suddenly became infected with moustache-twirling evil after creating his gleemax account.
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