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Started by Stargate525, May 11, 2007, 04:55:33 PM

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Stargate525

#45
May 17, 2007, 10:54:41 AM
It depends on whether intelligence is going to be our dependant stat. If so, I'd say 4+int. If not, 6+int.
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Haphazzard

#46
May 17, 2007, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: Uranium-238WEll, Divine and Domains and the 8 schools arent for the same class. for instance, a Wizzard would not gain ranks in Spellcraft (Divine)
But you have to remember, with the way the system works it doesn't matter whether you're a cleric or a wizard, you can both learn each others' spells.  As for the skills, I'd say 6+ int, but it seems a bit high, I guess it depends on where we end up putting the cast DC's and how many different things we'll have to put into.

As for what schools come from what stats, I'd put it like this:
INT-Conjuration, Divination, and Illusion
CON-Abjuration, Evocation, and Necromancy
WIS-Enchantment and Transmutation

I chose those based off of the school description in the PH.  The CONs all were chosen because of some sort of life/death or something-to-nothing description.  The INTs were based off of knowing things, and the WISs were almost left over, but they make sense that wise people would be better with those spells (based off of the description).  That's my contribution until about 10:30, so have fun with it.
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Higgs Boson

#47
May 17, 2007, 07:10:47 PM
It would seem to me the only Con skill would be Necro. Anjuration seems like it should be base don Int, as well as Evoc. and anyways, you're forgetting that, while it still is possible, it would be retarded to put ranks into the spellcasting stats that aren't your class skills, when you could, instead of having half the skills a caster of the other class, you could have full skills in you're class ranks.
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Higgs Boson

#48
May 18, 2007, 01:18:35 AM
So I'm thinking there will be two spell-crafting skills.
One will be only useful for divine casters- Craft (Divine)
and one will be good fro arcane- Craft (Arcane).
Also, i'm thinking spellcraft skills as such:
Int-Conj, Illusion, Abj, Evoc
Wis-Ench, Trans, Div, Necro, Divine
Also, the domain's will be governed by wisdom. Tell me whatchya think.
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Stargate525

#49
May 18, 2007, 10:36:50 AM
illusion, conjuration, and maybe enchantment should be CHA based; you're trying to control, convince, or persuade another entitiy in all of them, so your force of personality should play a part.
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Ra-Tiel

#50
May 18, 2007, 12:27:56 PM
@Stargate: why would you want to make conjuration Charisma-based? Controlling fiends called with the planar binding spell line already requires a Cha-check, and I really cannot see a high Charisma aiding you with killing stuff with cloudkill, razing cities with acid fog, or blocking passages with wall of stone. :?:

However, I agree with your proposal regarding illusion and enchantment. :)

Stargate525

#51
May 18, 2007, 03:33:19 PM
Mostly becuase that's the spell I thought of, and I don't use conjuration that often.
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Higgs Boson

#52
May 18, 2007, 07:11:57 PM
So, then, how about this:
Int: Conjuration, Abjuration, Evocation
Wis: Transmutation, Divination, Necromancy
Cha: Illusion, Enchantment.
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Higgs Boson

#53
May 18, 2007, 07:11:57 PM
So, then, how about this:
Int: Conjuration, Abjuration, Evocation
Wis: Transmutation, Divination, Necromancy
Cha: Illusion, Enchantment.
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Stargate525

#54
May 19, 2007, 01:02:52 AM
You're missing universal.
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Ra-Tiel

#55
May 19, 2007, 07:30:32 AM
Well, the few "universal" spells that exist could always be folded into the already existing schools. I personally found the "universal" school to be bothersome sometimes. It always struck me as a bit silly that some spells were of neither specific school, but rather all and none at the same time.

Or could you imagine a car that was neither a SUV, nor a pick-up, nor a combo, nor a coupé, but "just a car"? :huh:

Higgs Boson

#56
May 19, 2007, 09:47:40 AM
I think universal is fine. Cause, the spells in it really do not go well with any other category, and it is kind of like the "powerful" school. By that, i mean the spells that can be used for the highest effect. And here is an example of why we don't collapse it. Take these two unive3rsal spells: Wish, and Permenancy. There is no right school for them. For me Universal is the powerful spells, and it kind of is like a school of its own. WOTC just doesn't allow you to specialize in it, cause thats more Wishes for everyone!
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Higgs Boson

#57
May 19, 2007, 09:47:40 AM
I think universal is fine. Cause, the spells in it really do not go well with any other category, and it is kind of like the "powerful" school. By that, i mean the spells that can be used for the highest effect. And here is an example of why we don't collapse it. Take these two unive3rsal spells: Wish, and Permenancy. There is no right school for them. For me Universal is the powerful spells, and it kind of is like a school of its own. WOTC just doesn't allow you to specialize in it, cause thats more Wishes for everyone!
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Higgs Boson

#58
May 19, 2007, 09:48:06 AM
also universal, i think, goes under Int.
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Ra-Tiel

#59
May 19, 2007, 12:51:20 PM
@U-238: imho it would still be possible. [Limited] wish would fit well with transmutation, and permanency could go with evocation.
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