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Soup Nazi

#120
April 03, 2006, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Natural 20In my setting, as it stands now, Dwarves have been reduced to a Bbn like stereo-type.  furs, mountain forges, etc.  I am currently trying to establish a desert culture in my world.  so far, 2 options have been made to appear.

1.  I make dwarves into a LG culture that uses the desert as a place to purify their spirits to beter prepare themselves for when they embark to fight evil.  In this model I use Raptorans descended from Rocs as barbarian tribes in the craggy cliffs of the worlds mountains.  Problem with this model is explaining Dwarves forging metals in a n already uncomfortably hot environment, and whether i can successfully move the metal-working theme over to the raptorans.  in this model, dwarves favored class becomes Paladin and their racial ability modifiers are +2 Con, -2 Int.

2.  Use Raptorans as the desert culture, dwarves stay as they are now.  Problem with this is that paladins are built to use heavy armor, and Raptorans cannot fly with heavy armor.  However, the desert feel I think complements the raptoran's as a desert race.

So, opinions, comments?  please help...
I can easily see raptorians descended from rocs as a desert dwelling race. Dwarves actually could be too, with shaved heads and beards perhaps, but then they start to feel like Dark Sun dwarves...so forget that. Stick with the raptorians.

What's up with the paladins? Couldn't lawful good rangers fill the same role, and actually fit the desert climate and raptorian race better? If you've got some particular reason why you want paladins enlighten me. The class could be tweaked a bit to accomodate desert environments and light armor if you really need paladins out there.

-Nasty-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

Numinous

#121
April 03, 2006, 10:28:38 PM
I suppose I could do this without paladins, i just shortened out everything, and i realy liked the idea of using the desert to purify the soul.  Anyway, i had an idea for a variant Palain that was CG, enter the "Crusader".

Now time for a good news break.  Since all the divine races and their PC-friendly races have been decided upon, i will be tightening up the assignment of domains and the concepts behind the Ancients shortly.  

I'm not so sure about the Ascendants yet, I'm debating building them up in a more random fashion to highlight their uncoordinated rise to power.  

I'm planning on stripping down dwarves now, Removing their Stonecunning ability, bonuses on attacks agianst orcs and goblins, and their dodge bonuses against giants.  i'm just curious if it would be balanced to give them a +2 racial bonus to strength in exchange for the loss of these abilities.  

Thoughts?
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Soup Nazi

#122
April 03, 2006, 10:33:12 PM
QuoteI'm planning on stripping down dwarves now, Removing their Stonecunning ability, bonuses on attacks agianst orcs and goblins, and their dodge bonuses against giants. i'm just curious if it would be balanced to give them a +2 racial bonus to strength in exchange for the loss of these abilities.

Thoughts?

No way! strength bonuses are powerful, and the abilites you are cutting are almost trivial. Just replace them with similar abilites that would useful in their environment, Like bonuses to survival checks or something similar.

-Nasty-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

Numinous

#123
April 03, 2006, 10:37:11 PM
That's why I asked, thanks Nasty.  Maybe I'll just give them a +2 bonus to survival.  Take them down a peg, y'know?
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Numinous

#124
April 03, 2006, 11:01:21 PM
Update:  I will also be starting the ascendants soon.  aking a page from Oakspar77777, I will be avoiding making the setting too cute, and there will be an as of yet undetermined number of gods with fairly random concepts to represent the fact that  they all rose somewhat randomly and therefore shouldn't form a perfectly meshing pantheon.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Xathan

#125
April 08, 2006, 10:17:31 PM
QuoteSunetos (Ancient, Intermediate Deity)
The Wind Above, Watcher of the Veil
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Portfolio: birds, roads, death
Domains: Air, Travel, Death
Worshippers:
Symbol: a roc eclipsing the sun
Cleric Alignments: CN, CE, CG, TN
Favored Weapon: Shortspear
Race: Rocs
Ideals: Sunetos is the master of death, and the surveyor of all that there is. His purpose is to bring death to those who deserve it and take it from those who don't. The followers of Sunetos are attuned to the cycle of life and death, and so are not (as) afraid to pass through the veil as others around them. They take devotion to their deity very seriously and will sacrifice almost anything to fulfill his goals.
Appearance: Sunetos appears as a shadowy avian form with glowing white orbs for eyes. alternately he appears as a skeleton garbed in white robes.

I like, alot. Great flavor. Here's a few thoughts I have:

1) Chaotic Good: from your discription of his actions and cleric alignments, he seems more like Chaotic Neutral to me. It's hard for Death Gods to be good in DnD, and I don't see how he is.
2) Intermediate: Is he the only god of Death? if so, it seems to me he would have to be Greater - Death is so common, it would grant him power.

Those are the only things I question. The rest is great. I love the wording you used for his Ideals, and the discription for him is amazing. I'll have to read more stuff later - you captured my interest.
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Soup Nazi

#126
April 10, 2006, 10:25:08 PM
I love the dwarven creation myth. I would however like some explaination about why the ogres carved statues in the image they did. Was it some divine inspired art? I can't really see ogres thinking of tiny little statues as defensive totems; am I missing something?

Also are your ogres lawful? They seem to be based upon the structure of their society, but I am curious. I have no issues with alignment deviations from the norm...in fact I encourage it (it makes things interesting w/o changing stats or mechanics). It's nice to see the ogres in some sort of image other than barbaric brute, and a lawful society would do the trick.

Keep me posted if you add anything else.

-Nasty-

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Numinous

#127
April 10, 2006, 10:29:47 PM
Yes, the ogres aee lawful and the dwarves are chaotic, a bit of a role change for both.  I'm not sure yet how to explain the totems, but I felt that the myth was too good to discard, and I'm sure I will think of something eventually.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Raelifin

#128
April 11, 2006, 04:25:02 PM
The Ancients have been added to the Godswalk website. Please tell me if you have anything to add or a format you'd prefer. Worshipers only has one "p" btw. :)

Numinous

#129
April 13, 2006, 05:06:45 PM
OK, this is the schism wars so far...

When dragons were originally crafted by their god, they were cunning beasts capable of unparalelled destruction.  After several generations of these terrible creatures came to be, some variation in the mindset of these beasts came about.  Certain dragons looked upon the world and began to see the beauty in what they were destroying.  Unfortunately, there deisre for destruction was built into their very bodies and could not be overcome.  In a mad attempt to purify themeselves, this small draconic minority sought out help among the more peaceful gods of the pantheon.  Of these, only Hutor lent his aid, granting them new forms of beauty and peace, although still reminiscent of the grace they had previously.

Tisis, greatly angewred by the corruption of his creations immediately launched a religious war against Hutor.  Alliances were caled upon, and the heavens themselves burned with the fires of war.  As the sky above roared, followers on Egridar engaged in a mirror war on the material plane.

During the chaos that ensued, divine power was scattered about carelessly from the wars above.  Several mortals managed to claim this power and rise to a level of godhood themselves.  With this ascension, they began to collect worshipers and rapidly increased in power.  This soon caught the attention of the Ancients, causing them to make a shaky peace in order to fully prepare themselves for this new threat.  Now, these newly arisen mortals hold desparately to their divine gifts, gathering great kingdoms on the world of mortals.  A divine staring contest ensues as the powers probe at eachothers weaknesses, alliances are formed, and the fate of the world is plotted out.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Soup Nazi

#130
April 13, 2006, 05:11:08 PM
Nice. It's rough, but the Schism Wars tie all your concepts together quite well. I kind of wondered where the ascendants got their power, and now I know. How long ago was this?

-Nasty-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

Numinous

#131
April 13, 2006, 05:20:28 PM
I'm thinking about setting this up to be, at least the truce and ascension, at about 250 years ago.  That way, divine politics can be at their peak, and the ascendants are still resonably new, but have had time to establish themselves.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Numinous

#132
April 14, 2006, 02:53:37 PM
Raelifin has summarised the schism wars quite well, so I though I'd put his impression up here.

Quote from: RaelifinLet me see if I can summarize: Tisis creates dragons (chromatic), dragons wreak havok, some dragons sympathize, Hutor changes good dragons (metalic), Chromatics attack metalics creating the schism wars, Hutor and Tisis draw alies and create a world-war, Heroes of the war are fueled by the divine energy of the creators and become the acendants, the ancients fear for the sake of/their hold on the universe and cease the conflict...
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Numinous

#133
April 14, 2006, 10:54:01 PM
Ok, Raelifin, NastyNate, and Xathan know about this, but I'm gonna put it up for further review and so I have it somewhere...

Tanultsep
The Decaying lord
Portfolio: Undeath, control
domains: Domination, evil, ?
info: Tanultsep was the greatest servant of sunetos, at least before he ascended.  Now he rules the desert kingdoms of the raptorans, patron of their zombie forces...

Raelifin's summary
Quote from: RaelifinSunetos creates the ultimate manefestation of his will, the roc. Priests around the world see the roc as a powerful omen of the greater god and worship the rocs.  The schism wars create a bounty of food for the scavenging monstrocities and the clerics of Sunetos follow the great birds to the battlefields where they feast. Emulating the rocs, the deranged worshipers engorge themselves in mad feast, cannibalizing everything in sight. Scores of clerics die from disease. Those that survive seek to make a better race and manage to do so by magically cross-breeding with rocs. The unholy union creates the raptorans (please rename) who kill their creators in a mad fury. ...  FACK!
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Soup Nazi

#134
April 14, 2006, 11:03:45 PM
Tell em about the giant fiendish cannibal zombie chickens and the priesthood that sustains their people by eating the flesh of their zombie slaves...I'm not kidding!

-Nasty-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

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